see also:

• choosing a tent for Australian conditions

• larger touring tents with floors have a major problem in that the floor is very difficult to ensure it is adequately dry before packing up
• a solution to this is to use a tent without a floor to essentially provide cover for a smaller 2P tent which does have a floor such as a 2P Mozzie tent or a swag
• in winter when there are unlikely to be problematic crawling or flying insects, such a tent could be used with a stretcher bed without an inner tent
• the absence of a floor also means the weight is reduced and allows safer use of a wood stove to make it a hot tents (tents with wood stoves inside), bell tents, yurts and tipi tents

• most tipi tents do not have a floor but most also have a centre pole
• see hot tents (tents with wood stoves inside), bell tents, yurts and tipi tents for a wide selection with stove jacks

• modified tipi style but no stove jack
• centre pole with adjustable peak ventilation plus geodesic-like poles to give more headroom
• single door with awning and two large low mesh windows
• 4.4×4.4×2.9m; packs to 66x23x23cm; 15.5kg;
• opt. floor opt mesh inner tent
• Ebay ~AU1300
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZPwX1ZDWA

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004652464979.html $AU598 plus$114 shipping
• 4.5m diam x 2.8m high; octagonal; centre pole;
• 3000mm wh cotton; stove jack; adjustable ceiling vent;
• fly has partial awnings out to each tie down point and these effectively double the footprint so you need a 9-10m diam camp site for it but can be used alone
  • TC cotton PU450mm
• 1.4m high side panels each with poles: 210 Oxford PU2000mm, each panel has a floor to top of vertical wall large door;
• detachable floor: 600D Oxford PU3000mm;
• 23.5kg; packs to 88x37x37cm;
• looks like it needs at least 2 people to set up

• these are NOT freestanding

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004917393068.html $AU260
• 4.4 x 2.2m x 1.55m high 210D white Oxford
• internal rear tent 150D Oxford but only 2x2m?
• 3.9kg; packs to 65x17x17cm; 8.5mm fibreglass poles;

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004406877068.html $AU730 + $AU454 shipping
• 150D
• 5.7×2.75x2m high; 18.1kg packs to 98x30x20cm

• $AU829 on special https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004960005281.html
• 3.5x3m x 1.6m tall; no centre pole; 3 large doors with mesh door but bottoms are a trip hazard; ?3 elevated circular mesh windows;
• 6 aluminium poles in geodesic pattern which insert through tunnels and end in total of 6 ground peg points;
• 2000mm waterhead 210D Oxford fabric; partial fly to cover windows and ceiling only; 15 guy ropes and stakes;
• comes with a floor that can be attached
• 9.25kg packs to 55 x 20 x 20cm;

• beige hexagonal 150D Oxford 3000mm WH 14.2kg 3.85×3.85x2m NX21561037 Royal Castle version on Ebay $AU1271
• 2 front doors; 4 large windows; no stove jack
• packs to 62x33x33cm;
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZjXh09Bp3s

• https://mobigarden.shop/products/commander
• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004998387740.html
• https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175519625968?hash=item28ddc8f2f0:g:bGgAAOSwpaljjYHX
• dyneema sleeves for poles, black or khaki 70D 230T PU silnylon;
• 2 doors; snow skirt; 2 side windows;
• detachable 4000mm WH 150D PU floor;
• Commander 185 tent: 6 vents; 6 poles; 3.8×3.3×1.85m; 11.4kg; ~$AU1250 on special; opt tunnel vestibule “Front Hall” 1.3×1.7×1.35m high 1.6kg; “Top Shed partial fly” 0.88kg 3.1×3.1m; $AU1670 on special for both these options and inner tent as well as the 185 tent.
• Commander 245 tent: hexagonal 8 vents; 12 poles with central ceiling hub; 5x5x2.5m; twice the area; 20.8kg; ~$AU2600 on special

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004924507382.html $AU2000+$AU485 postage
• 5m diam x 2.3m high;
• two stove jacks but no fire proof material and shielded chimney will touch tent
• 200D 3000mm PU
• 14mm and 16mm poles
• 21.5kg packs to 70x33x33cm

• 75D 3000mm; snowskirt; stove jack; octagonal with 4 doors;
• large: 500*475*250cm; 22kg; packs to 72x38x35cm $AU2050 plus $AU334 shipping
• medium: 410x410x220cm; 17.7kg; packs to 75x34x34cm $AU1500 plus $AU334 shipping
• small: 370x300x172cm; 10.4kg packs to 70x23x30cm $AU750 plus $AU334 shipping
• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004778118702.html $AU334 shipping
• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004854366894.html cheaper shipping $AU291

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005051095865.html ~$AU3700
• 7x7x3.1m high 34.65㎡; packs to 84x48x44cm; 5 doors, 7 windows; centre ceiling hub for poles; 6 ceiling vents; snow skirt; requires 3 people to erect;
• 300D silver coated PU Polyester (Waterproof 3000mm) + clear PVC windows
• 39.9kg opt. detachable floor

• $AU1652 on special https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005129236679.html
• $AU1553 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005126045416.html - TPU clear pvc doors?
• black, green or khaki
• 3×3.9×2.05m high; 13mm aluminium poles;
• 2 very large 1.8m high dual removable mesh/fabric doors which can be made into awnings;
• central narrow ceiling 20D mesh; 2000mm WH 20D 400T ripstop PU silnylon;
• 4 low large side mesh windows;
• packs to 50x22cm; 7.39kg incl. 2 removable mesh 1.8m high x 3m wide doors

• https://mobigarden.shop/products/nx22661003
• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005054901697.html $AU696 + $AU129 shipping = $A829 + GST
• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004815156297.html $AU462 + $AU274 shipping = $A736 + GST
• Ebay $AU660 but sold out
• white 3000mmWH; 3 large side mesh French windows on one side with stove jack; dual doors with awning and mesh; 4 pole design
• 4×3.8×2.15m high; 11.1kg; packs to 62x30cm;

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005032884405.html $AU790 + $AU239 shipping
• 310*310*185cm; internal aluminium octagonal central hub design;
• 600D Oxford 2000-3000mm with snow skirt; 2 large doors; 3 upper vents with mesh; no windows; no stove jack;
• detachable 300D PU3000mm plaid Oxford floor;
• 15kg; packs to 82x30x30cm;

• http://en.kzmoutdoor.com/main//bbs/content.php?co_id=corinto_product_dt&it_id=K211T3T01BE&ckattempt=2
• http://www.kzmoutdoor.com/main/data/2022_KZM_ko.pdf
• Youtube set up
• Youtube Chiwoo ASMR camping in storm and cooking - clear PVC window protectors added - presumably these are optional add ons or self made
• can purchase in Malaysia: https://goritta.com/products/kzm-viva-dome-3-4-person-shelter-plus ~AU1300
• 360 x 360 x 195 CM | Storage - 75 x 30 x 30 CM
• 75D 3000mm ripstp nylon, PU teflon coating
• 150D Oxford 1500mm removable floor
• ceiling clear PVC windows on roof fly to match with 4 ceiling mesh panels
• very large mesh/fabric windows and 2 front doors; no stove jack; 14.5mm diam poles;
• 13.5kg

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005166101548.html $AU508 plus $AU130 shipping
• 3.9m diam x 2m high octagonal;
• 3 doors, 5 large mesh windows; no stove jack;
• 150D oxford black glue coated waterproof PU5000mm; aluminium poles with central hub;
• partial fly to cover the central peak mesh vent
• 17kg packs to 70x26x30cm;
• floor ?optional

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004979307401.html $AU625-675 + $AU62 floor plus $AU129 shipping
• 3.6m diam x 1.9m high; octagonal; front and rear meshed large D doors with 4 elevated side windows
• 3000mm 210D; aluminium poles with centre hub; detachable floor overlaps snow skirt; high zip open stove jack needs shielded chimney;
• partial top rain fly for central ceiling mesh which acts as vent
• 11.2kg excl floor; packs to 70x30x30cm; beige and khaki or black;

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004979307401.html $AU929-1007 +$AU83 floor plus $AU129 shipping
• 5.2m diam x 2.2m high; octagonal; front and rear doors with elevated side windows
• 3000mm 210D; aluminium poles with centre hub; detachable floor overlaps snow skirt; high zip open stove jack needs shielded chimney;
• partial top rain fly for central ceiling mesh which acts as vent
• 14.6kg excl floor; packs to 78x36x36cm; beige and khaki or black;

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005066273661.html $AU775 + $AU285 shipping
• 4m diam x 2.1m high; octagonal central hub design;
• 2 x clear TPU / PVC detachable door covers;
• large windows but seem to be opened only from top and from bottom leaving middle part as fabric
• large circular ceiling hole through which a chimney can pass - not sure how this bit works with the fly on with its clear TPU/PVC panel
• 17kg packs to 75x40x30cm;