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NatureHike Sand Dune hot tent

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  • I don't sell any of these nor do I receive any remuneration if you buy them, and I have not personally reviewed all of them although I have purchased this tent, they are listed here to give you perspective

Introduction

  • the Nature Hike Sand Dune 7.6 is a 2023 model “4 season” rectangular floor-less tent with a stove jack and 2 meshed doors, 2 large meshed/fabric side window/doors plus a large fabric/mesh inner tent
  • in cold weather, the optional TPU door gives visibility while keeping the rain and wind out, and the inner tent can be almost fully fabric enclosed apart from its ceiling - one could replace this in cold conditions with a full fabric inner tent - and of course you can have a wood stove
  • in warm weather with flies or mosquitoes, there are the 2 meshed ceiling vents plus 2 large mesh side windows plus 2 large meshed front/rear doors and the inner tent can be set to having just mesh on the two large doors as well as the ceiling
  • delivery to Australia for my purchase took just under 7 weeks
  • if using the stove or in wet conditions, adding a 3×2.4m tarp as an extra protective layer as a fly to reduce ember burns and also improve waterproofing and warmth makes good sense
    • easier to buy a new tarp than keep fixing tent ember burns
    • NB. if using a stove, I would always use a triple shield chimney section where it passes the ceiling and this would also protect the tarp from chimney damage or fires if the tarp is secured well
  • buy TWO TPU doors in case one gets damaged as I am guessing in a couple of years they may not be able to be easily replaced, and they are fairly thin - so be careful with them
  • the stove jack is VERY close to the inner tent doorway opening - TAKE EXTREME CARE or better still replace it with a 1P version of the 3f UL Gear TC cotton Kangaro inner tents
    • the stove will be ~20cm from the inner tent which is a touch too close for my liking - it may be safer to buy a 1P version of the 3f UL Gear TC cotton Kangaro inner tents or similar tent for when using the stove as it is narrower and will be able to be placed further from the stove
    • furthermore the zip of the inner tent opens right next to the stove so you will need to almost fully unzip the door and ensure it does not blow onto the stove before getting out of the inner tent to stoke the stove otherwise there is a major risk of severe burns in accidentally touching the stove or the inner tent door catching on fire if it touches it
    • unzipping the inner tent door from outside will require your arm going very close to the stove or chimney and a high risk of severe burns
    • if using a Winnerwell Nomad wood camping stoves Nomad 1G with its window on the right, you will need to angle the stove on a 45deg angle if you want to see it through the TPU door as the mesh side door has bottom fabric which practically hides the window if placed parallel to the side door

Specs

  • “2023 Upgraded Version”
  • 3.2×2.4×1.8m tall; ~7.6 sq. m;
  • 4 meshed, fabric doors:
    • front door can be set up as awning and optional TPU;
    • rear door can be set up as awning but no zipper for TPU;
    • 2 side doors also act as meshed windows with inner fabric zipping UPWARDS which is really great for privacy
  • internally silver-coated PU 2000mm 75D 210T polyester floorless tent with stove jack (located at rear, close to inner tent)
  • detachable 2P inner tent: white B3 polyester mesh, white fabric, 150D 3000mm Oxford floor
    • detachable 2P FABRIC 2.2×1.5×1.6m 2 dual mesh/fabric doors frameless inner tent with bathtub floor and mesh ceiling;
  • no fly;
  • nice 13mm alloy poles - 2 main long poles which pass through short sleeves on ceiling only, plus a short cross pole that clips on to ceiling
  • 2 ceiling vents
  • snow skirts
  • 6 guy out points - these are designed to wrap around the poles! (guys included but not needed unless windy)
  • packs to 63x30x22cm; 7.5kg;
  • optional TPU for front door:
    • SBS resin zipper 20 silk
    • 210x140cm 0.6kg
    • zips DOWNWARDS from the tops on each side, top section has velcro tabs
    • TPU becomes the inner-most layer - the mesh and fabric layers are external which allows setting up the fabric layer as a small awning
  • optional footprint:
    • dark coffee 150D Oxford; 3.15×2.35m; 0.92kg; packs to 27x15cm;
  • https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006028659331.html ~$AU424 and optional: TPU door ($AU53) and footprint ($AU51) + shipping $AU131
  • NB. there is also an “original version” which is 50D not 75D fabric and thus lighter at 7.2kg but without the stove jack https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005399342880.html ~$AU508 free delivery by slow boat

pros

  • standing height for most people
  • relatively fast, intuitive and easy to set up (especially if you leave the inner tent attached and the TPU door attached when packing up)
    • takes me 5-7min to set up or pack up by myself with inner tent pre-installed and packed up installed (excluding guy ropes)
    • NB. if using the inner tent, you will probably need to hang the whole tent up in the shade when you get home to ensure the bottom is dry before storage
  • ability to add TPU door to front door only (this zips INSIDE the mesh/fabric layers) but the TPU material is fairly thin and not as sturdy as that on the Dokicamp Unlimited Works dome tent VAST-SK100
  • front and rear awning doors extends shelter space
  • stove jack seems to be in a usable position although it is quite close to the supplied inner tent
  • 4 dual fabric/meshed doors of the outer tent makes for great versatility
  • inner tent seems nice and is all fabric apart from its ceiling so warmer for those cooler nights, yet could be ventilated well with mesh doors for warmer nights
    • the doors zip away from the stove and fold to the opposite side which reduces chances of fabric contacting the stove - but you still need to be careful!
  • can use without inner tent or provide your own 1P or 2P inner tent (if using a stove, a 90cm deep 1P tent is a safer option such as the 3f UL Gear TC cotton Kangaro inner tents as it is further from the stove)
  • not too heavy or bulky
  • easy to set up - the 2 long sleeves are actually easy to push (or gently pull if sleeve is not cramped up tight) the poles through thanks to the extra large 13mm pole diameters which don't come apart too easily

cons

  • no ceiling fly to prevent ember melts from hot embers falling from the chimney melting the ceiling and causing issues with rain - ensure you chimney is very high and with spark arrester and avoid very hot fires - consider adding a tarp as a fly to protect from embers (and also add more waterproofing plus option to extend out to protect the side windows or rear door in the rain)
  • inner tent design is not my favorite design but it does save time, allows standing height for short people, and can be replaced with a 1P or 2P freestanding tent
      • the inner tent is very tall with lots more air volume and the ceiling is all mesh so your body heat will not be able to warm it up - but you can replace it with your own 1P or 2P tent
    • inner tent has D doors which fold to the side
      • this reduces options for privacy and ventilation - a fabric door which zips UP from the bottom allows privacy even if only zipped up part way and still allows ventilation or visibility when sitting up - but again, you can replace the inner with a 1P version of the 3f UL Gear TC cotton Kangaro inner tents which has the zip up from the bottom design of the fabric layer
    • bathtub floor of inner tent is quite thin
      • I would advise having rubber mats and/or a tarp underneath to protect it and also provide extra waterproofing
  • wind resistance may be an issue given its height and only 3 poles but they are 13mm poles so as long as guyed out well and zipped up should be capable of surviving reasonably strong winds - I would think at least 60kph - but have not tested this, although it certainly had no issues with ~30-40kph winds in my tests
  • external snow skirts collect rain water
    • need to go around and clear this water out to help drying it out

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  • the Vidalido Land Yu 2Persons TC Cotton S-T139 Tent just fits inside this tent and gives more privacy options thanks to its inner fabric layer of the doors zipping upwards HOWEVER, the pole structure is DIFFICULT to set up and take down inside this tent due to space limitations and risks damaging the mesh of the NK tent during pack up
  • if using you own inner tent for extra privacy, I would recommend the 1P version of the 3f UL Gear TC cotton Kangaro inner tents which is still a very reasonable 90cm wide and will be a safer option when using the stove

with inner tent

  • leave inner tent installed for rapid set up and pack up (only 5-7 minutes)
  • as the inner tent doors unzip away from the stove end, for privacy and ability to still look out, it is best to have your head at the stove end, that way you can close inner tent's fabric layer half way and you can look out reasonably well
    • this means, you will want the stove end on higher ground and preferably have the rear of the tent on higher ground so water does not pool under the inner tent

with wood stove or in cold conditions

  • consider using a 1P freestanding tent instead of the inner tent for added safety distance from the stove and it will provide more warmth in winter as the ceiling is not mesh and it has less volume to warm up

in either case, add a tarp as a fly and extended awning

  • a tarp allows:
    • protection from ember burns from the chimney
    • additional waterproofing
    • additional temperature control
    • sun protection
      • despite a black tarp with separation from ceiling, direct sunlight on a 33degC day with minimal breeze results in inner temperatures of up to 38degC!
    • additional awning shelter to sit outside in the shade or cook outside on a table (and if using a 4x4m tarp this can extend to the ground for wind protection to the rear and side doors)
  • a 4x4m tarp can extend backwards from the top of the front doors, around the triple shield chimney and then can be attached to tall tent pole(s) as desired pending wind direction
  • ideally the tarp will be lifted off the tent ceiling as much as possible to allow ventilation and better temperature control in sunny conditions
  • you could use a 3x3m tarp or 3×2.4m tarp but this would not give wind protection or as much awning options

Compared to the NatureHike Mastiff

  • Sand Dune:
    • has a fabric inner tent instead of a mesh tent making it warmer for winter but too warm for summer perhaps (can replace the inner with a cheap mesh mozzie tent to address this)
    • is taller and wider but not as long
    • has an extra meshed door
    • does not have the curved rear door pole making set up easier but may not be as wind resistant as a result
    • has a TPU door option
    • is 3kg heavier ?heavier poles

Compared to the Pomoly Leo 2

  • the Sand Dune is:
    • taller - you can stand up
    • much wider giving much more vestibule space an the ability to use your own inner tents such as the Vidalido Land Yu 2Persons TC Cotton S-T139 Tent or 3f UL Gear TC cotton Kangaro inner tents
    • total area is 7.6sq compared with 5 sq.m
    • perhaps more wind proof as strong poles but given it is much taller the wind resistance may be similar
    • can add an optional TPU main door for wind protection whilst maintaining visibility - and this also acts to prevent rain ingress when using the door as an awning
    • much larger vestibule / stove area which allows space for small chair and small table as well as stove
    • easier to set up as the 3rd pole is clipped on above the other poles which is a major advantage over the Leo 2 which is a bit cumbersome which requires the 3 poles to be passed through their long sleeves prior to erecting
    • stove positioning allows more radiant heat to pass to you in the inner tent whilst still being relatively accessible from the inner tent
    • mesh doors to the vestibule for improved mosquito protection whilst in the vestibule
    • but lacks various advantages of the Leo 2 which has:
      • 3 awesome dual doors for the inner tent for versatility in privacy / ventilation and temperature control (this can be addressed by the 1P version of the 3f UL Gear TC cotton Kangaro inner tents )
      • perhaps better access to the stove door for stoking the fire
      • more compact footprint
      • almost half the weight

Compared to the Unlimited Works Vast-SK100 octagonal dome tent

  • the Sand Dune is:
    • much lighter (7.5kg vs 11.5kg) even though it has an inner tent
    • even faster and easier to set up IF you use the integrated inner tent pre-installed
      • integrated inner tent which does not need separate setting up once installed
      • only 2 main poles instead of a centre hub and 8 poles
      • probably a bit easier for one person to set up as less weight to lift up when fixing poles into grommets
    • has doorway awnings for some rain protection
    • being rectangular rather than octagonal, there is better use of what internal space there is
    • stronger poles 13mm vs 9.6mm
    • able to add an optional detachable floor
    • a bit less ostentatious so attracts less attention - although a wood stove plus TPU door will generally attract attention
    • skirt projects outwards as a snow skirt instead of inwards as a mud skirt
    • HOWEVER, it:
      • is MUCH smaller in internal area 7.6sqm vs 12sq.m
      • has less standing height of only 1.8m vs 2m
      • has only 1 door can have a TPU door added (the Vast-SK100 can have them added to any of its 5 doors)
      • the optional TPU doors on the Sand Dune have smaller zips, only zip on 2 sides, and are of thinner TPU material and you can't have one side half zipped to allow stepping over and walking in as the zip down from the top instead of up from the bottom - but there may be advantages to this such as less dirt in the zipper
      • has less options for placement of the stove as there is a fixed stove jack whereas the SK100, it can be put in any of the 4 ceiling vents
      • does not come with an additional fly layer - so I would suggest adding a tarp in heavy rain or when using the stove

Nature Hike 2024 Shanyu One 2P Tent

  • this tent still has a stove jack and similar design overall to the Sand Dune 7.6 but:
    • is only 30D PU2000mm polyester fabric and much lower profile being 360x230x145cm and poles may be thinner which means it is much lighter at 4.4kg
    • does not have a full rear door but only a half width door and is missing one of the side doors but adds rear side vents instead of ceiling vents and does not have a TPU option
    • has an additional rear cross pole, a more streamlined rear and a much lower height of 145cm making it even more wind resistant rated at 24m/sec or Grade 9 winds!

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Nature Hike Dune 10.9 tent

  • this is a much larger version
  • has three 7001 aluminium alloy poles (presumably also 13mm) in ceiling sleeves with the cross pole being a full pole down to the ground
  • 2000mmPU UPF50+ 75D Polyester Fibre 150D Oxford ??
  • 420x260x200cm outer tent with wide front door which has a extendable folding pentagonal awning, wide rear door, 4 side door/windows, 2 ceiling vents and a stove jack
  • detachable white fabric inner tent 240x200x180cm with front and rear dual fabric/mesh doors (zip to the side) and two large side windows (zip up from bottom)
    • 150D 3000mm PU floor
    • zipper for power cord
  • packs to 73*35*25cm 11.8kg
  • https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006071949565.html ~$AU875 plus $AU58 for the ceiling fly “top cap” plus $AU58 for front TPU door

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